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colden: Some cool buzzpages i stumbled upon:
www.buzzxp.com
http://ebic.czweb.org/
comment about buzz2...
www.jeskola.net/index_xs1.html |
2002-12-21 |
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Elektroj?nis: Hmmm... What if I want a sound of a real kickdrum (or snare or whatever) and I dont have one. I'd buy a real drums but my significant other is not too positive about it (not to speak about neighbours). Also the next day I might wan't an upright bass and a xylophone on sunday and so on and that would become quite expensive. Even if I could afford those I would have a huge problem storing them and i would need to learn to play them. |
2002-12-18 |
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colden: Dear butcher and others:
For me it is rather a feeling than rational thought. Those preproduced loops kind of lack soul to me. I was a exaggerating to get my point accross. You have to search for a good sample. not on some database but from maybe all the musik and noises you hear on your ghettoblaster and in the car. Primesounds concept kind of reminds me of those late night tv-commercials for the musicmaker. |
2002-12-18 |
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mva: The competition has ended. I'll contact the people who have won something as soon as possible. |
2002-12-18 |
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elekt: Hey tyler, long time... tryptomine_dream |
2002-12-17 |
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butcher_of_buzz_county: Colden said: I have to admit that samples to add atmosphere to an otherwise sterile electronic production are important. Used to use other Songbackground for that. Nowadays I make them myself from my old tracks or own loops or with the microphone.
Samples are useful for more than that, colden. I use samples all over the place: Drum machines that are built around samples, drum samples proper, and sometimes instrument samples.
And that isn't a drawback. It's no different than using the same old 303 and 909, or a square wave -- it's what a person does with it that counts.
Good luck to everyone who enters.
_KhlER3L [dot9] |
2002-12-17 |
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colden: Drunken stupor rules! get on the phone and call up old friends! |
2002-12-16 |
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Elektroj?nis: Kindom=kingdom |
2002-12-16 |
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Elektroj?nis: I rule my underpants (they are the limit of my kindom). :-P I still whish I did not use the f=ph thing. |
2002-12-16 |
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2002-12-15 |
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tonfarben: You rule EJ?nis!LOL =)
I didn?t participate, don?t ask me why. |
2002-12-15 |
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Elektroj?nis: ?rgh... I should not write anything when drunk... |
2002-12-15 |
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Elektroj?nis: Fuck all the rules. Use what ever comes around you. Fuck stuph up. I'm drunk now but it does not change anything... Phuck it up. The copywright issues are another thing, but it does not matter with the samples from this site. |
2002-12-15 |
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mva: Colden: "I think that buzzmachines doesnt get anything from it" - Well I agree with you here, the site itself doesn't get anything, but I like to give something away to the users, so I accepted this competition. I think it's also good to see that companies are interested in buzz and want to give some stuff away in exchange for some publicity. |
2002-12-14 |
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elekt: I'm a subscriber, PS have some pretty good stuff. Especially the one-shot drum samples and the 'exotic' voices and ethnic samples (i wish they had more of those). Anyway, you can take a drum loop, cut it up and slice it and mess with it and you'll get an entirely new thing. I tried to stay away from samples for a long time, this, maybe rightly so, being some sort of philosophy about music making. But you can do some prety cool things with them in buzz, especially with the WN looper and BTDsys, not to mention all the pitch shifters, lo/hi pass, distortions, and those other good effects. Buzz does have its own specific sound, and we all love LFO's sweeping our brains out, but getting stuff from outside adds something to the sound, gives you new choices. The problem with samples from other people's music is that they are sometimes easily recognizable, especially the melodic stuff. Using samples in a good way is not in anwy way easier than using any other gen in buzz. |
2002-12-14 |
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colden: Please tell me if I am missing some facts here on how primesounds supports the buzz community.
my view:
ps is a company (no movement) who found out about buzz -a musicmakingsoftwaretool with lots of machines that support samples. ps makes money by selling samples. so buzzmachines is about one of the best places to put an advertisement in order to reach a lot of potential customers. so they give away 10 accounts, which does not cost them any, except maybe a slight increase in downloadtraffic.
so what is my problem with this? I think that buzzmachines doesnt get anything from it (I hope they made some money deal, but I dont think so). they got pulled over the table with some cheesy questionaire.
my own personal view on the sampling issue:
I like samples of songsniplets.
I dont like preproduced loops and instuments. if I dont play violin than I dont use some sample to simulate it. the purpose of electronic music to me is not about replacing good musicans by samples
another problem with sample libraries (I quote the primesound promotional text here):"As a PrimeSounds member, you get access to more sounds than you can handle"
I have to admit that samples to add atmosphere to an otherwise sterile electronic production are important. Used to use other Songbackground for that. Nowadays I make them myself from my old tracks or own loops or with the microphone.
stole a drumsample-cd once, which I found really helpful as it contained natural drums.
so I guess black and white thinking doesnt win here (as ususally) and my entry comment surely is not my whole point of view. JUST DONT PAY FOR SAMPLES |
2002-12-14 |
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constellation x: Yeah like you said, EJ :) |
2002-12-13 |
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Elektroj?nis: It's perfectly ok to use samples... Whatever kind of samples... Samples obtained from anywhere... only thing that matters is what _you_ do with those samples. |
2002-12-13 |
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tylerparker: Make your own samples....Rip an entire season of Tony Danza's "Who's The Boss?"......Gimme entire scores of "Trance Dance Trance-sylvania Trance-formation 3 Billion." Bottom line----you take baby sound---you make brachiated carjack funk. Feel me jedis? |
2002-12-13 |
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Tic-Tac Shut Up: I don't mind someone using multisamples of a violin.. or even a *short* phrase.. it could be argued that that's no worse than using a synth someone else wrote.. .. as long as you are choosing the notes.. but people who buy "SUPER SPACE TRANCE DRUG SAMPLES 6000 PLATINUM" and load entire loops into acid bother me.
i agree that this sponsorship thing is awesome and i'd love to have a membership at this site. more drum samples for me! |
2002-12-13 |
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HamsterAlliance: I don't own a violin...so that's where Violin samples are good. If all you're doing is plain generic electronica then sure, make your own...but if you need something you don't physically posses; and if it's provided by someone dont' be rude. |
2002-12-13 |
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constellation x: I meant rp[fr] offcourse :D |
2002-12-12 |
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constellation x: Yeah making your own samples is a good thing, but sometimes you stumble upon great samples (maby there here to find :) And besides that pr[fr] is right. Its a nice that you can win some really good prises, but also great to see interest in our community. |
2002-12-12 |
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rp[fr]: Bah - i hate the way you people behave about this very good movement. a big site sponsors something (as well as shows interest in the buzz community) and you guys do here is dissing that. shame on you. |
2002-12-12 |
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colden: Make your own samples. |
2002-12-12 |
