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2002-06-10 |
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2002-06-06 |
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thevider: Maybe the buzz machines integration in fruity is not such a problem after all. They don't even coop with the buzz way of working ( = no grafix required, only wanting to do kraaazyy sounds and pressing Ctrl-S every 30 secs). Fruities are just fundamentally different people than buzzers. Less l33t. Of course.
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2002-06-04 |
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Apo: Vlad: You paid real hard money for fruity, go and talk with/whine at/bitch at them for not delivering a working adapter. No one here, except Oskari, can make a buzz plugin adapter because the buzz plugin API is controlled by Oskari's license. |
2002-06-03 |
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2002-06-03 |
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2002-06-03 |
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supafunk: Wouldnt it be scary if Emagic or Steinberg made a Buzz machine wrapper..................... |
2002-06-02 |
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supafunk: Wouldnt it be scary if Emagic or Steinberg made a Buzz machine wrapper..................... |
2002-06-02 |
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Elektroj?nis: Hah... My question could be very relevant... :) |
2002-06-02 |
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Vlad Ivanov: I didn't criticize Buzz - i don't know what i said to deserve such treatment here. All i wanted to say - that Fruity Buzz Adapters are not up to the level of the rest of the package and it would've been nice if it was redone. And as for Buzz itself - i paid for Fruity even though i Buzz is free - therefore it's pretty clear that Fruity is something that i prefer working with. I am more interested in getting some music done rather than going indepth with a package that didn't appeal to me from the beginning. It doesn't make it bad or anything - its not my thing. For exactly same reason i don't use Logic or Reactor - i am simply not interested, even though i am fully able to actually pay for things that i like, and i do it on regular basis. Buzz machines and effects, on the other hand - when integrated with Fruity - are as convenient to use as VST plugs - and i would've been happy if they could be used as part of the music creation. However the way it is now - i don't like how they are integrated and it's a shame. Fruity community was originally pretty excited about Buzz support - but soon everyone realized that it's not as good as everyone expected due to the adapters. Using Buzz gens in Fruity - will more often than not lock up your host and result in loosing your work - its hassle that few are willing to put up with. If an improvement in Buzz adapters cannot be expected - then oh well, i will continue using what i have been using all along. Thats all i have to say on the subject. |
2002-06-01 |
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RomanB: Eheh... cool! it works! Well, i still dunno how to make a "enter" and continue next line... :P
Vlad, if yer suck... sorry, such limited like you say, why are you interested in buzz plugs anyway? if you like the buzz gear, you should really try chaining the stuff... i know fruity, and i like it, really, and i have a friend he makes awesome sound with it, but he also claims that the wrappers should be redone... all i could say to him was also: try using buzz plugs in buzz itself, and make nice routings and chains... he changed his mind now... maybe you should really try to do advanced stuff in buzz, its even alot of fun to do so, believe me. and what yer telling about "i'm not interested in tracking" man... whats the difference? you make music! when you play violin, you dont say, "i like how the sitar sounds but i dont like the way you have to play with it"... or... do you? |
2002-06-01 |
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RomanB: Mute
Your ARE gay... :D
bold?
italic?
sorry, gotta test it out... dunno much about html...
(call me gay) |
2002-06-01 |
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Mute: Limited minds achieve limited things. |
2002-05-31 |
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Mute: Vlad: ok, you suck then (sorry, call me gay). get out. leave. your not a buzz user, you have no reason to be here. |
2002-05-31 |
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Vlad Ivanov: Electojanis: Yes. |
2002-05-31 |
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Elektroj?nis: Can fruity send midi? |
2002-05-31 |
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Vlad Ivanov: Regarding Buzz machines in Fruity: I don't like the Buzz wrappers because they are buggy and look ugly (which is harming my creative workflow, call me gay) - so i haven't even paid much attention to Buzz plugs. However i recognize that Buzz plugs have potential to expand my sound library for free, which is a good thing.
So if somone makes some decent wrappers (as i understand Oskari is not interested)- i'd be happy to look more into Buzz plugs.
Sorry - i am not interested in "tracking" - i much prefer Fruitys way of doing things. |
2002-05-31 |
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Mute: Lemme try this again.
Vlad: If you like buzz machines that much, amidst the maaaaaaaaaany other multipludes of amazing features fruityloops has: You really should check what the real buzz is alla`boot =]
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2002-05-31 |
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Mute: Vlad: If you like buzz machines that much amoung soooooooo mannnny other multiplude of amazing features, you really should check out buzz itself =] |
2002-05-31 |
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Mute: Djl: thats for you to think and me to find out..
eerrm, |
2002-05-31 |
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Vlad Ivanov: Maybe someone here has brains to code a better Buzz adapter for Fruity? Something skinned and that works well. |
2002-05-30 |
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djlaser: Mute: your comment is pointless |
2002-05-30 |
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jeanmariecannie: Apo Unless you want a Fruityloops registration and mail me about it we'll see to it that your machines & FX are removed from the next (3.5) build . While we're plugging : Check out the flash preview here. |
2002-05-30 |
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Elektroj?nis: Damn... I was going to do what mute did... 101 then... :-) (I missed the opportunity while eatting and getting my hair cut. :) |
2002-05-30 |
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Mute: Post 100 ;] |
2002-05-30 |
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Mute: EHaheaH)aha "I didn't know you could layer instruments..." |
2002-05-30 |
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rp[fr]: I just wanted to take the opportunity right before post #100 has been made and say that this is by far the most entertaining post @ bm.com ever... cheers ;) |
2002-05-30 |
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mute: "Hamsteralliance: I noticed u using dx stuff and thats _very unstable_ host in buzz. only good thing is xs1 there cause seems youre running w98 :) Your screen res is quite big, so i doubt that screenshot will fit fine in jeskola.com (cause will be resized to smaller size), and the colors very dark, making that not very good looking imo. Making a brief text description of what can buzz do could be better (xs1 is commercial, u got a legal copy? ;). I hope I've give you enough reasons to keep the screenshot I submited some days ago to jmc. 2002-05-29 by djlaser"
djl.. yer such a troll. heh |
2002-05-30 |
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Apo: Just to mix my spoon at this thing again (hi gol & jmc ;-). So here goes:
My plugin is included with the fruityloops buzz adapter on the cd. No one has informed me that it is used.
The "We promised all Buzz developers of the machines we included in Fruityloops a free Full version of Fruityloops." should have been "We promised all Buzz developers of the machines we included in Fruityloops a free Full version of Fruityloops, if they somehow get their hands on a list of buzz plugins included with the fruityloops AND notice their machine is used."
I have not recieved any word from JMC or any other fruityloop employee that my plugin is used or I haven't seen any list from them even though they know I have developed buzz plugins. My name is in the documentation included with the machine and in the "about" window that is at least accessible through plugin menu options.
And the plugin in question: smartelectronix tubescreamer, which was ported to buzz and heavily modified by me.
I'm thinking about if I should request my copy of fruity. |
2002-05-29 |
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rp[fr]: Penisshow... |
2002-05-29 |
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djlaser: Jmc: buzz got funkyverb, which is free and uses same engine that the vst one and probably the one included in floops, but i put the on the screenshot cause it has got l33t gui + some minor extra features ;) |
2002-05-29 |
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jeanmariecannie: djlaser The Ultrafunk Reverb you've put in the screenshot that's online now costs $50 ... and (an interfaceless version of it) is included for free in Fruityloops :) |
2002-05-29 |
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jeanmariecannie: deadworm222 We promised all Buzz developers of the machines we included in Fruityloops a free Full version of Fruityloops. I believe we kept our word here. Please correct me if I'm wrong so we can settle this. We indeed got replies from developers of obscure machines but as we didn't include those they didn't get a regcode. |
2002-05-29 |
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jeanmariecannie: HamsterAlliance I don't think the screenshot you posted is better than the one that's online right now. If you want I'll scale it and put it there but it won't do Buzz any justice. btw. I was looking for a screenshot of Buzz hosting a DirectX instrument, not an FX. |
2002-05-29 |
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Elektroj?nis: Maybe I shouldn't take part in this message thread because I'm not e developer (and this is a war thread anyway) but I remember somebody mentioning something about the fruity wrappers... If I remember correctly somebody said that devs could make their machines so that it would not load to fruity... I could remember wrong but I think it was discussed as a feature in the fruitys buzz wrapper or something. Maybe I just remember wrong but if it is true devs could decide if they let their future machines be used by fruity users. |
2002-05-29 |
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deadworm222: Jeanmariecannie: Zephod said that those who let their machines being used were promised something. He also said that thay didn't get anything. Could you please tell us why ? (Not: 'if this is true' 'cause I believe Zephod)... |
2002-05-29 |
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djlaser: Hamsteralliance: I noticed u using dx stuff and thats _very unstable_ host in buzz. only good thing is xs1 there cause seems youre running w98 :)
Your screen res is quite big, so i doubt that screenshot will fit fine in jeskola.com (cause will be resized to smaller size), and the colors very dark, making that not very good looking imo. Making a brief text description of what can buzz do could be better (xs1 is commercial, u got a legal copy? ;).
I hope I've give you enough reasons to keep the screenshot I submited some days ago to jmc. |
2002-05-29 |
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layle: Jesus christ. fruity loops is a good product to, so it's commercial, at least it is stable and very well done with excellent features these days. however i don't care for the gui and i like the rawness and quick of use (for me) with buzz, so i will always be a buzz freak. but, damn, this "i don't wanna have my machines realsed with fruity" is idiotic IMO. yeah you worked hard, but if you are giving them away anyways, what different does it make which audio platform it is run on. maybe the original VST folks didn't like thir stuff going around in apps other than cubase, but it happens more every day in Buzz and FL and many other programs. (geez) |
2002-05-28 |
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HamsterAlliance: JMC: HERE is a nice large screenshot of Buzz Tracker with windows for, the XS-1(using a .SF2), A native buzz spectrum analyzer, The massive kyrie spectra, MDA piano(VSTi), and the Sonic Timeworks Compressor(DX). There's even a box in there for the mp3 loader, but I forgot to open it. X_x. Don't forget to mention the XS1's and XI's please. =)
Here's the link to that screenshot again: SCREENSHOT |
2002-05-28 |
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jeanmariecannie: I didn't know you could layer instruments or run DXi's in Buzz but anyway : If you can send me a screenshot that has a what you describe above I'll change it. |
2002-05-28 |
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HamsterAlliance: JMC: "Layer VSTi's, DXi's & Buzz Machines
with Fruityloops." Is Right. but Simply, "Download buzz machines and effects @ buzzmachines.com" isn't.
I would rephrase that, "Layer VSTi's, DXi's, Buzz Machines, DMO fx, SF2's, XI's, XS1's, and even MP3's with Buzz Tracker" for it is true. |
2002-05-28 |
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jeanmariecannie: rp[fr] So where else would our users have to find the machines and FX they wanna use ? I believe we bundle 10 machines of the 150 available.
If you really think that anyone who's only remotely interested in the Buzz machines will stick to those 10 machines and not download the rest of them here I'm gonna have to confirm your assumtion.
Anyway. Oskari just let us know he's gonna register Jeskola.fi. |
2002-05-27 |
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rp[fr]: Jeanmariecannie: i think it's really kinda retarded that you try to get away from the topic by making people think you want the best for anything else than your product. i think it's okay that you try all your best to sell fruity loops bigtime, but don't try to fool us by saying something like "you want your users to come here and download buzz machines." what do you think? that we're a completely retarded bunch of ignorant idiots? come on, get your balls on again! |
2002-05-27 |
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moon.god: Boring news, mva, eh? ;) |
2002-05-27 |
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jeanmariecannie: Zephod I still don't know what you're getting at. We've been including Buzz support for over a year now and we never got a single complaint from anyone about including his machine. If you know someone who has problems with it (like 7900) just tell them to contact me ( jmc@fruityloops.com ) and they will be removed ASAP. As I told you we just offer the adaptors and a couple of synths to see it working. The idea is that our users come here to download their machines and FX. btw. How's your new softsynth coming along ? |
2002-05-27 |
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2ndProcess: Jeskola.com looks better that way ;) |
2002-05-27 |
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butcher_of_buzz_county: Jmc:
1. It was nice of you guys to put the money up to grab Jeskola, even if it's only for historical purposes.
2. You better make sure you got the devs permission to bundle their machines in with your software. Devs are very fickle creatures, you know.
(actually by khl) |
2002-05-27 |
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2002-05-27 |
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zephod: Also I want to remind you of the fact that -none- of the goodies promised to the Buzz people in return for their work ever arrived. |
2002-05-27 |
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spiderfab: Me too |
2002-05-27 |
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2002-05-27 |
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djlaser: Sorry for the empty comments. i did something wrong. |
2002-05-27 |
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2002-05-27 |
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2002-05-27 |
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zephod: Jeanmariecannie: 1) I was asking not only for myself but for all ppl that want that info. 2) That comment was made because you promised the developers something in return for the distribution of the machines. We dont care if the value of fruity is in the machines or not, the fact is that our freeware is being sold and our products get linked to fruity. Also: ppl who pay for the package will not thank the developers, because: -they already paid for it-. The sole reason I made buzzmachines has been taken away from me by the loader. Some people dont care about money. Some people care about people. |
2002-05-27 |
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Mute: Someone's asking to get their server hacked... at least, if they aren't i've never seen someone who has |
2002-05-27 |
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jeanmariecannie: Zephod I don't know what you're getting at but in your case I just have an email (8/23/01 6:51) saying : "volgens Mva werken al mijn plugs...
en ja, release ze maar mee." (dutch for : "according to MVA all my plugs work, and yes release them along with it") and "Ik kan de voidsynth II bijwerken voor naar Fruity?" (Dutch for "I could adapt the voidsynth II for Fruityloops?"). As I told you before the USP of Fruityloops is not in the FX or Generators we bundle along with the app but in the fact that you can use just about any of the +300 FX & Generators that are available here. |
2002-05-27 |
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jeanmariecannie: All 9700 machines or FX will be removed (if they were included, I'll have to check). If anyone else wants to be excluded please let me ( jmc@fruityloops.com ) know. btw. You don't have to buy Fruityloops to find out. The demo is identical to the real version. You just can't save. |
2002-05-27 |
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7900: Jeanmariecannie: I made an effect called "7900s Osc" and I dont want it (or any of my future software) included in any of your commercial packages in any way. Freeware/donationware doesnt make it your property. I dont know *if* my effect is indeed included (I'd have to buy Fruityloops to find out if it was up to you) but anyway: To my knolegde I havent received any email from you asking me if you could distribute it. Not exactly an example of good manners I would say.
.. Bye - _7900_ / Jochem vd. Lubbe |
2002-05-26 |
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djlaser: Green: ultrafunk reverb vst |
2002-05-26 |
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green: What is that machine that is in the screenshot of buzz on the left? looks like asdr envelopes or somthing |
2002-05-26 |
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zephod: Can we have the full list of machines and/or scanned copies of signed agreements that the plugs could be spreaded in a commercial package? |
2002-05-25 |
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jeanmariecannie: Correction : Oskari just let us know that the domain isn't worth the $150 we paid to iMillionairs and doesn't want it. If anyone wants to redo the page or has suggestions please let us know. Otherwise it'll probably stay the way it is right now ... with some banners added :) |
2002-05-25 |
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jeanmariecannie: We made an agreement with Oskari : He's gonna fix our wrappers and he's getting jeskola.com. In the meanwhile I've added (Freeware & $49-$99) to the current jeskola page. btw. We still didn't get anyone to ask us to remove any machine from the list we include by default so if you know anyone who as a problem any of the machines please let me ( jmc@fruityloops.com ) know. |
2002-05-25 |
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King Alex: I don't understand. Whenever I went to Jeskola.com all I ever saw was a link saying "an exelent site" which led to buzzmachines. What's all the fuss about? And what's all this about fruity loops and buzz? That's a side issue, surely?? I just don't understand you young people......... |
2002-05-25 |
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djlaser: Ld0d: I have upped a temporary file with the buzz machinery included in floops 3.4 here |
2002-05-25 |
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mva: Djboo: That is discussed a million times allready... don't you dare to start it all over... |
2002-05-24 |
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ld0d: Jmc: is there a list of buzz machines included with floops somewhere? Could you please give a direct url to it? |
2002-05-24 |
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djboo: Jmc: since u think its fine to use buzz machines in your disty with out permission or recumbance, is it ok for me to release by fuity->buzz wrapper? and include all the fruity machines with it? good, ill start packaging it up right away. |
2002-05-24 |
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tom_level: I got a kool idea. why don't the fruity people convince oskari to code buzz2? FRUITY BUZZ - i would buy it :) |
2002-05-24 |
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piexis: Some people are never happy, at least jeskola now points to buzz, even if there is a bit of (very light) fruity propoganda there too. We should be thanking the guy rather then damning him. Just hope they give it back if buzz2 ever shows up :) Personally i think it would be nice if they pointed out buzz is free and fruityloops isn't, but you can see why they don't. (mind you, if theyre so confident that fruity is superior... ;-)
besides which, jeskola.com has been dormant so long, i doubt many people still head there.. |
2002-05-24 |
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RomanB: I simply think you all should stop whining! Fuck You all! Be happy with the fuckin nice beta 1.2 we have! its fairly stable and is even more powerful with some of the hacks! Dudes stop that shit about complaining "oh, my money!" and "oh, fruity!". Just let the Fruity people be happy with that, and let oskari live his life! He is a hero for me, and as every hero in my life, he also STOPPED to be my hero(some rumors about him doing buzz2 still, but i dont discuss that!), not because he stopped developping Buzz, because Superman was my hero when i was 8 years and superman isnt my hero anymore! BE HAPPY WIHT WHAT YOU GOT! DO NOT COMPLAIN ABOUT THAT WHAT YOU DON'T HAVE AND NEVER WILL GET!!! Fuck you all! you make me sad!!! In peace! |
2002-05-24 |
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jeanmariecannie: rp(fr) We contacted ALL the authors of Buzzmachines & FX. If anyone has a problem with his machine being bundled (can't imagine who) please let me know as we're bundling Fruityloops 3.5 as we speak. The machines or FX will be removed in a second. btw. I find it hard to believe you think the value of the Fruity adaptors is in the (few)machines we bundle (most coming from Oskari himself) while there must be over 300 available for download here. |
2002-05-24 |
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moon.god: Kerberos: what do u think would the rights for cubase cost? i think *several* million of dollars. and u want to pay oskari ~1000$ for the rights of buzz? |
2002-05-24 |
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kerberos: And yeah... fuck the legal stuff around buzz, developers unite and make a 1 on 1 perfect open source clone. Oskari isn't doing anything for us, he took the money of some of us acording to lunar07, I don't know hom much it was but lets just say it was enough to pay of the rights :) |
2002-05-24 |
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kerberos: I think it's actuall pretty cool what the Fruityloops team did with Jeskola.com... give 'em some credit...
(allthough thier program will never replace my beloved buzz.. I tried it and din't like it ;)) |
2002-05-24 |
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rp[fr]: Jeanmarie: in case you include buzzmachines on your official fruity loops cd rom without asking the regarding developers, you definitely are that "evil commercial empire" you don't want to be. and not answering mails regarding this thread does NOT imply the opposite. |
2002-05-24 |
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jeanmariecannie: [automation] I really don't get why you see Fruityloops as a *rival* to Buzz. We offer a new platform where you can use your Buzzmachines and combine them with the latest in music technology (ASIO, DXi, VSTi, ...).
I know you all think of us as an evil commercial empire but what you're looking at is a 3-person company that happens to do a nice job. |
2002-05-24 |
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jeanmariecannie: Before we start a new war over this :
In order to avoid www.jeskola.com to be bought by one of *our* competitors we bought it ourselves and offered it *FOR FREE* to Oskari in return for a bugfix in his wrappers that makes Fruitloops crash when using Buzz machines in another host.
He told us this was a silly deal so until he changes his mind we've put up a small page that points to Buzzmachines.com and Fruityloops. If someone can provide me (jmc@fruityloops.com) with a BuzzMachines banner and/or description I'll be glad to put it online. |
2002-05-24 |
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Fuzzpilz: Why, so he has indeed. |
2002-05-23 |
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automaton: Nice one mr. imillionaires. You just sold jeskola.com to one of buzz's main rivals, namely fruityloops. Now they are trying to use the domain as commercial leverage. I hope you're happy. |
2002-05-23 |
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moon.god: Devilbird: as zephod mentioned in an earlier thread about chimp's rebuzz you for instance first would need to crack buzz' wavecompression algo in order to load up-to-date bmx files. and this is just *one* problem to solve.
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2002-05-23 |
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devilbird: It shouldn't take more than 3 months to kick up a buzz clone... but i recall reading from somewhere that there are really strict restrictions to buzz's header file usage, so that might be a problem if we want to do it the legal way... ;) |
2002-05-22 |
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gubbi: Is this the last nail in the coffin for jeskola? -otonsberg@hotmail.com |
2002-05-21 |
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vdbjoel: Why searching for other sites??? Buzzmachines.com rulez!! |
2002-05-19 |
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roccons: Oskari's words: "Sine forgot to renew the domain registration it and someone else got it.
The same happened to maz & buzz2.com I think."
But, hey!, buzztrack.com is still recoverable. ;) |
2002-05-19 |
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dimitree: CRACK THE DAMN THING YEAH ! ;D |
2002-05-18 |
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rjkole: Hups,may be imillionaeres.com is a satire from Oskari on how much money heve got from us .... ;-)) - to be serious,arent there any Hacking tools out where you can Decompile/Extract Exe-files ? talkin about the Buzz.exe |
2002-05-18 |
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rjkole: ...besides i dont think the domain name is so important.so its always only for the one who ownes it.In a few month you will find in the searching nmachines only buzzmachines when you look for "buzz".i must say i dont care who has written the code.So why not complaining about mva.com or rout.com ect.. |
2002-05-18 |
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Fuzzpilz: Actually, the buzzmachines.com domain isn't that important; I always come here via the complete web.hibo.no thing (so I can refresh pages properly). Of course, that's not a good URL to show off, and the name of the site is "buzzmachines.com", which would look odd if the domain wasn't owned by mva. |
2002-05-17 |
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lunar07: mva: hehehehe....you bet! As long as you do not forget the date, leave the rest on me :-)
edsca: I am all certain that MVA would never do that. YIKES! This can be quite bad if it ever happens.
rymix: A good one! |
2002-05-17 |
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mva: That won't happen... Buzzmachines.com is in good hands... right Lunar07? :) |
2002-05-17 |
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edsca: I don't see the problem here. I can't remember the last time I even *visited* jeskola.com. When MVA has a slip of memory and somebody buys up buzzmachines.com, *then* I'll be upset. ;) |
2002-05-17 |
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rymix: Rymix.net expires June 20th. So someone might want to grab it an auction it off for approx $54,000,000,000 which is how many hits I get per half-second. I can dream, right? |
2002-05-17 |
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Dimitree: NONE USEFULL COMMNT !
1.Jeskola made Buzz
2.Jeskola throw it up on ppl
3.PPL loved it !
4.Jeskola lost the code
5.Jeskola lost the domain
6.Jeskola dos not take care of the official buzz web page
SO HE DAS NOT CARE FOR HES OWN CRATION !
7.IF he did ! he cold say ! i ve got no money ! take care of www.jeskola.com ! And that was possible and it was gonna be done !
8.Jeskola das not exist any more!
Dont get me wrong !
i love buzz ! i love it so hard and deep ! I love it for 5 ears now ! sinse the first time i hers sound on that got damn good softwere !
and now it herts !
I wold be vary happy if someone is ABE to FIND jeskola and ask him what is he planing to do with hes own cration and let this be PUBLISHED so that we can stop living in a dream world where the code is resurected and buss is back on cos anastly i dont think that JESKOLA is the one who will do this :< |
2002-05-17 |
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rjkole: Lunar07: ok,i didnt know that.may be he ve got so much money that he went on a worldtrip and never came back ;-) ... @ the Programmers,especial those who wrote the Vst Pluginloader and overloaders : we have so many machines now.i can imagine it would not be to hard to write a whole new buzz which can load all the buzzmachines.of cuorse it must have the main functions (main screen) again. |
2002-05-17 |
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mva: XionD: They can only add stuff, not remove stuff from the site. It's more for when I'm on vacation or so. But I don't mind when they put up news sometimes... |
2002-05-17 |
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- dmC -: The main & no.1 domain for buzz should become Buzzmachines ,the page is greate (news too) ,moreover the Oskari seems to be dead for a long time :< |
2002-05-17 |
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lunar07: space 1: Oskari received money to fix the HD. He never updated anyone on how much he got. There was a discussion on this issue before where I criticized him for such behaviour and called him a down right liar and thief. You take money from people for a certain issue then I believe it is an obligation to explain to people what happened with the money. No one should send money to Oskari to fix the HD unless Oskari clarifies what he did with the money. Same with jeskola.com: let Oskari get it back, but not with our money. |
2002-05-17 |
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XionD: Moon God: Excellent - good to see that MVA has got some help - and you might be right about it being - none boreing heh |
2002-05-17 |
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iMillionaires.com: Hey Bass, why not grow up and put your money were your mouth is and offer me $50 for it. Regarding your comments about "shafting other people ", shafting who? When you grow up someday you will realize that you have to pay bills in life. If you don't pay them stuff gets taken away. In this case he did not pay for his domain name and lost it. It's not like he did not know. Registrars give you three notices. moon.god, I hear what you are saying. You see moon.god, I own one of the largest network of web sites in the world and I fund kids to develop sites. Last year I spent $11,000 funding kids sites ! Most of them have talent but can't afford the costs, so my partner and I do that and we spilt any money the sites make with the kids. So, If you all feel the way you do, get 10 people together with $5 each and buy the name back. I will even tell you were you can get FREE web hosting with no ads (15 meg space, 100 meg monthly transfer, MySQL, PHP, CGI, etc). |
2002-05-17 |
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rjkole: If that HD still exists,there?s agood chance of fixing it.Even the HD needs to be taken apart.Therefore of course must be some money availiable.Someone should contact Oskari again and have some money to offer for fixing the HD.- If anyone finds more info on that please tell me so i can send some money.all others should do as well. space1 |
2002-05-17 |
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bass ape: If Steve or whatever he calls himself does put the domain on Ebay, just set up a fake Ebay account. Bid a shitload of money for it and never pay him. That way it's a pain in the ass for him and he'll think twice about shafting other people in the future. Well, that might be a bit idealistic but a pain in the ass is a pain in the ass as they say! |
2002-05-17 |
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moon.god: XionD: me and cyanphase are buzzmachines.com staff members beside mva. (mva is the owner of the site, we all know that).
i dont think this is boring news otherwise not so many ppl would discuss here. (of course mva is the highest instance. if he want to remove the news i put here he is always able to do so.) |
2002-05-17 |
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moon.god: Imillionaires.com: u should think about the fact that most ppl in the scene are for one thing quite young and for the thing not very "rich". i dont believe that u will succeed in putting the site on ebay.com. especially if u raise the money u aim to get for the domain to high. nobody would buy it then. non-sceners arent interested in buying the domain. further oskari himself is well known to be always out of money. so even he himself couldnt afford the domain i guess. |
2002-05-17 |
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LIBRARY: I think this person has been had. I allow the use of my name for all future versions and from now on you can call it dex tracker for version 2 and above :) |
2002-05-17 |
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technetic: Once i?ve asked Oskari himself on Efnet #buzz (Mirc) about the source code of buzz, he told me it was in his broken hard disk, so i ask myself: is it possible to take that hard disk to a hardware expert hoping him to fix it? or is it so broken that even the surface of that hd is unfixable. whatever i?m still on keeping my faith on that code comes to surface again... :? |
2002-05-17 |
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XionD: Now I have a few Questions:
1 - How is it moon god put the news article up in the 1st place...Isnt that MVAs job (I agree with MVAs first statement - boring news).
2 - Do ppl still honestly beleive that buzz will be resurected???? (live with it love it but dont expect it to change).
3 - STEVE - this is my opinion only - where the hell do you get off snatching up a domain name....then goin to a place where ppl arent happy that you have - AND TRYIN TO SELL IT OFF! my god man...thats just askin for a mail bombimg / virus / whatever....HOW RUDE!
XD |
2002-05-17 |
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iMillionaires.com: Hello this is Steve from iMillionaires.com.
Just reading the comments here while listing to some Buzz files from http://www.fortunecity.com/greenfield/bigmama/226/
Yes the previous owner left the name expire. I don?t know why people do that.
I specialize in finding popular sites and selling them to people to restore them. While I?m looking, I park them at one of my sites. I will shortly put it up for sale on eBay.
I have too many successful sites to try to revive this myself but if any of you are interested send me an email: legal@imillionaires.com.
Just one will do ;)
-Steve |
2002-05-17 |
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deadworm222: Magmavander: once at buzztrack.com was a text that the "hard drive is on its way to Finland" :D |
2002-05-16 |
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kmkrebs: I'm ready to be the next internet millionaire!!! |
2002-05-16 |
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vectrex: Well, we could spam HIM, mwhahaa. Someone set up an email script that pumps shit loads of emails into his 'sales' email... see how they like it.. or setup a script to put in fake orders, untill he hands over the million doll... um, domain name.. |
2002-05-16 |
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rjkole: No doubt,Jeskola is a Genius.What i dont understand is that a Genius can losse so important Data.i mean the Buzzcode. |
2002-05-16 |
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2ndProcess: ;-( |
2002-05-16 |
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IntrospectiveJourneys: Here's my vote, if the next version of Buzz ever comes out, call it "Buzzmachines Buzz", that way people will associate it with the new domain name. If the scumbag who took it ever stops getting hits, maybe we can have it back...
...but Buzz lives on... just because jeskola.com died doesn't mean that Buzz dies too... |
2002-05-16 |
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lunar07: Magmavander: I do agree with you and I wish I can catch the guy who stole the domain to do not very nice things to him. So, of course I am not happy it happened. But at the same time I am happy that sine and/or oskari are not the ones taking care of buzzmachines.com for example. If you do not take care for what you have, nobody will! It is an issue of responsibility. |
2002-05-16 |
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bax: Buzz is simply too good & it's free, so others want to kill him ,buuuuuuu! [I hope that's true :-)] .I like the way magmavader thinks of it. Additionaly I think that the Buzz-Code should be found ,there are many things to do!
God bless Buzz! |
2002-05-16 |
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moon.god: Renniac: sine909 (luke freiler) used to own the domain jeskola.com not oskari. |
2002-05-16 |
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magmavander: Well, I just want to thank Oskari. Why ? Because he give us this fantastic freeware called Buzz. He lost his domain name and what ? It's not my problem. He lost the source code ? May be it's because he didn't have enough MONEY to buy a new hard disk. Sometimes I don't understand. If some are angry against him, they can buy Fruity or Reason or Storm or...They can try Psycle (a good freeware too). Buzz lives today through coders who developpes greats machines for our pleasure.
And we have buzzmachines.com, so where is the problem ? I have met great people all over the world and this is due to the work of Oskari and the community of users. I am not a musician but today I can do music, sorry Music, with one of the greatest musical software, free or not. Go gardening Oskari, and in a few month you will be able to create the lost Eden's Garden ! magmavander |
2002-05-16 |
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moon.god: Mva: i thought that many ppl are interested in what is going on with jeskola.com. i strongly believe that still jeskola.com has many hits per day. otherwise this guy wouldnt have been interested in "stealing" the domain... |
2002-05-16 |
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lunar07: renniac: yep ..... "forgot". It looks like Oskari was counting on someone else to register the domain. What does it matter to Oskari anyway? He lost the source code to Buzz and now he lost his own domain. Jeskola must have been just another hobby. Add it to the list of 'lost' hobbies. Maybe he should consider gardening instead! |
2002-05-16 |
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renniac: "forgot"... ahem... :-/ |
2002-05-16 |
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mva: Moon... I don't think this is interesting news... |
2002-05-16 |
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Lurios: Booooooo!
Domain snatchers should be fried. |
2002-05-16 |
